File:2020aug-derecho-ottawa-illinois-tornado.jpg

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Summary

Description	English: This EF1-rated tornado was spawned by the w:August 2020 Midwest derecho along with many others. This particular tornado spawned in w:Ottawa, Illinois
Date	16 August 2020, 10:05:09
Source	National Weather Service (Chicago Office) - August 10, 2020 derecho event summary
Author	Jason Ward

Camera location	41° 21′ 10.8″ N, 88° 50′ 38.4″ W	View this and other nearby images on: OpenStreetMap	41.353000; -88.844000

Location coordinates is of the start of the tornado's track path.

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File history

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	Date/Time	Thumbnail	Dimensions	User	Comment
current	08:46, 9 December 2020		600 × 706 (248 KB)	Gwennie-nyan	Simple crop to remove erroneous overlay text
	08:38, 9 December 2020		600 × 800 (99 KB)	Gwennie-nyan	Uploaded a work by Jason Ward from National Weather Service (Chicago Office) - [https://www.weather.gov/lot/2020aug10 August 10, 2020 derecho event summary] with UploadWizard

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Date and time of data generation	10:05, 16 August 2020
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File:2020aug-derecho-ottawa-illinois-tornado.jpg

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