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Towns?

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This article states Thousands of Jews lived in the towns of Dęblin and Irena [pl] in central Poland before World War II and refers to Dęblin and Irena as towns. Hmmm. Perhaps - did you know pl wiki still does not have an article about "town"? It's just not a concept that exists in Polish language and law, which basically differentiates between villages and cities, but doesn't have an intermediate level outside some obscure legal concepts that are not commonly used in everyday life (unlike the word 'town' in English).

pl:Dęblin states that it received city rights in 1954 (ref). Before that it was, I think, techically a village. Possibly a large one that would be called a town in English?

With regards to pl:Irena (Dęblin), this seems a bit more complicated, legally speaking, but TL;DR it probably could be called a town in English. It was a separate administrative entity until it was merged into Dęblin after WWII (we have a ref for 1953); before that, that article states about Irena that (translating from pl wiki): "It never received city rights, but had the status of a city settlement and was morphologically built on the model of a city (with a central market square and streets)." So I think it's ok to call Irena a town, but I am unsure about Dęblin. More about the relevant terminology: "osada miejska" which translates as a city settlement refers to pl:Osady w Królestwie Polskim. I'd translate "osada" as settlement, but settlement is a disambig and the interwiki from pl:Osada is hamlet. So the usage of the term town to Irena seems arguably more colloquial then legally correct, but it's not like I have a great solution.

In either case, I'd ask User:Buidhe if they could look into the Background section, which refers several times to "the town". What town? Irena? Or Dęblin? And to avoid problems with administrative terminology and/or confusion with regards to which place we are referring to, I'd suggest we clarify each instance of "the town" used the article to either Dęblin or Irena. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:34, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

PS. To be clear, since this is English Wikipedia, it's probably ok to use the term "town". But we should clarify which of the two towns any instance of "the town" in the body of our text refers to. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:42, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]