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Good articleJuventus Next Gen has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
July 15, 2023Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 28, 2023.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Juventus's reserve team, Juventus U23, won their first trophy after only two years in existence?

Requested move 26 August 2022

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 21:20, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Juventus F.C. Under-23Juventus Next Gen Juventus F.C. Next Gen – New name per the official website. Many other reliable news sites, such as Goal.com, Gazzetta dello Sport and Tuttosport have also reported the name change. The official Serie C website changed the club's name accordingly. Nehme1499 19:34, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As an user says on it.wiki: Juventus can 'rebrand' itself as it likes, but the name 'Under 23' is FIGC-issued and that 'officially' remains in the championships, until proven otherwise. Dr Salvus 19:59, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
officially remains in the championships: Lega Pro are using "Next Gen" (official website). Nehme1499 20:02, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Quick note: it.wiki just moved the page to it:Juventus Next Gen. Nehme1499 19:45, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Dr Salvus, GiantSnowman, Ortizesp, and SuperJew. Nehme1499 09:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me! GiantSnowman 10:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me too. Dr Salvus 10:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support this as well.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:16, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Juventus U23's logo on their Twitter profile has an orange background. Should that be inserted on this page? Dr Salvus 05:10, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, they use Juventus' normal logo on their kits. Nehme1499 07:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"History" section could be improved furhter

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I believe this section is Achilles' heel of this page. I think it could have a further expansion but remember what you said in May 2021 here. Someone has told me it'd be a good idea nominating this for GA. Dr Salvus 22:54, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems Juventus even had a third team, competing in the Terza Categoria in the early 20th century. Dr Salvus 13:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've found evidence of the Juventus III's existence:1, 2, 3, 4. I don't know whether talking on Juventus III would be appropriate in an article talking of Juventus' second team, nor do I know if writing this would be "ugly" to see. We only know that they played some friendlies and played in Terza Categoria (maybe?). Dr Salvus 22:42, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you can add a sentence summarizing what you found. Nehme1499 22:55, 24 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've read that Juventus III participated to the 1906 Terza Categoria (it.wiki), but the article does not provide a source.
There isn't info on Juventus III matches which would help me even if unsourced (I could've searched on La Stampa archives). Dr Salvus 07:24, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've found evidence on Juventus III's participation to the Terza Categoria (not the league in which I play). La Stampa archives have CC license. I'm thinking of adding a Commons Category where I can put newspaper clippins talking on Juventus II and Juventus III. Would it be appropriate? Dr Salvus 22:53, 25 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, if they are free to use. Nehme1499 12:04, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This monring, Agnelli talked and said lots of hypocrisies. Do I write them somewhere in this article or is it more appropriate for wikiquote? Dr Salvus 14:22, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What did he say? Nehme1499 14:47, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
He wasn't the only to talk but a five/six people took part to an event called "Next Gen Day". You can see the declarations here.
I think Agnelli's words are hypocrite beacuse he still keeps a coach who doesn't play youngsters if the other players are out. Dr Salvus 14:57, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I eat what I said. Dr Salvus 21:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
What name do I use for that category? Dr Salvus 17:41, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Juventus Next Gen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: AideDésintéressée (talk · contribs) 18:04, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'll start the review tonight. The article looks good to me so I don't think it will take a long time. Hopefully, it may be done before tomorrow evening! AideDésintéressée (talk) 18:05, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a. (reference section):
    b. (citations to reliable sources):
    c. (OR):
    d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a. (major aspects):
    b. (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):
    b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/fail:

Assessment

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@Wikipediæ philosophia @Nehme1499

The whole article seems very good and solid to me. I have no complaints except a few minor issues (reference for the stadium's capacity and staff members who were not cited) that I've just corrected myself but I can now promote this article to GA class. Congratulations and thank you both for your all your work. AideDésintéressée talk 19:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk09:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Improved to Good Article status by Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) and Nehme1499 (talk). Nominated by Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) at 15:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Juventus Next Gen; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - a concern
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Wikipediæ philosophia: Good article. though i do have to ask, what does it mean by "first historic trophy" Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:25, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: Their first-ever trophy in their history as well as the first-ever trophy for a reserve team. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 03:39, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If we're going to use historic then sure. Onegreatjoke (talk) 16:49, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]