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A fact from Suicide bag appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 December 2008, and was viewed approximately 6,151 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an exit bag, consisting of a large, clear plastic bag with a drawstring, is a commercially available device for committing suicide?

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Navigation popup, inappropriate content

When scrolling over a hyperlink to this page, the navigation popup that appears contains the following:

"A suicide bag, also known as an exit bag or hood, is part of a euthanasia device consisting of a large plastic bag with a drawcord used to commit suicide through inert gas asphyxiation. My mom used it to end her life. I saw her dead, lifeless, inaimate [sic] rotting corpse. I touched it. It was cold and lifeless"

The popup ends there, but the passage contains the information about the mother is highly inappropriate and I don't see where it's even pulled from, nowhere on the page is that information. Fathercthulu (talk) 21:51, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's pulled from an earlier, reverted, revision of the article containing a vandalism edit. I wish there was a documented way of purging these tooltips. I'll try purging the page cache for this page to see if that helps. — The Anome (talk) 22:02, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: purging the page (by using the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_bag?action=purge) successfully purged the tooltip popup as well as the page cache. — The Anome (talk) 22:06, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I had looked through as much as I could and didn't see a way to directly edit it, hopefully you have more luck than I did. Fathercthulu (talk) 22:06, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've also revision-deleted the offending edits, since they are both grossly offensive and irrelevant to the article and thus qualify for immediate revision deletion. I've also revdel'd another offensive edit by the same IP in another article, and blocked that IP for a month. — The Anome (talk) 22:42, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Assisted Suicide

I would like to know why this page is even on Wikipedia. This walks you through how to kill yourself with Helium and the materials necessary, even with a diagram of the suicide bag. People who are suicidal look up methods and this is what comes up. We are wanting to help people find ways to kill themselves?? I am ashamed to live in this country and have this be allowed. My sister died this week from finding this on the internet and bought herself plenty of helium, tubing and a plastic bag. She knew this plan would guarantee death, when most other methods have first attempts that aren't successful or people regret it in the first few seconds of attempting. I demand this page be taken down. Shame on people who put this page together. I hope you realize you just helped kill my 22 year old sister along with many others. 2601:281:300:170:6828:2348:477C:13FF (talk) 21:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 2601:281... I'm very sorry for your loss. While anyone may nominate this article for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, it might be better to raise the issue at a venue like the Village pump. While I don't think the editor community will opt to delete articles on suicide methods, ultimately policy and practices are a result of the consensus of the community, and there may be some action that could be taken. For instance, I don't think we usually include a link to mental health resources in articles like this one, but I imagine that at least some editors would support it. gobonobo ⁺ ^c 19:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't this page be protected against vandalism edits?

It's obviously a highly sensitive subject, and looking at the history of the page I noticed there was a lot of vandalism.

I'm not sure how protecting a page works, but I know it's possible and it feels quite necessary here. Cornflake000^[T]/_[C] 19:34, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's been no recent vandalism. As the page protection policy states: protection is used when vandalism, disruption, or abuse by multiple users is occurring at a frequency that warrants protection. The duration of protection should be as short as possible and at the lowest protection level sufficient to stop the disruption, allowing edits from as many productive users as possible. Schazjmd (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]