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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 FA Cup final

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5x expanded by The Almightey Drill (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 17:09, 24 April 2016 (UTC).

  • Article is newly expanded. It's long enough, sufficiently neutral, well-cited and has no obvious copyvio issues. Hook is correctly formatted, interesting with no neutrality issues. QPQ done. I'm happy for it to be held back until the day of the final. Everything looks good. Retroplum (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the QPQ review was not adequate, mentioning only age and length and hook. Reviews need to cover all DYK criteria, including close paraphrasing and neutrality—the nomination was just pulled from queue due to close paraphrasing/copyvio issues described in WT:DYK#Copyvio in Q4. Please submit a complete review to satisfy the QPQ requirement. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:42, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
  • QPQ has been completed; restoring tick per Retroplum. Will be moving to special occasion area for May 21. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:10, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
  • I don't know much about sports, but the hook confuses me. The article states that Manchester is "one behind in each record" to Arsenal after a total of 18 FA Cup finals. How can they "match" Arsenal's record if they're behind? Also, could you provide the sources for the information in the charts? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Wembley Stadium, site of the 2016 FA Cup Final
Wembley Stadium, site of the 2016 FA Cup Final
  • I would also like to know if we can use the image in the article to lead off the prep set, as there will be several other FA Cup Final-related hooks in this set. Yoninah (talk) 15:13, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I am fine with the image. With regard to the hook I thought it was clear when it said winners record. Nevertheless I have clarified it, so please restore the green tick. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:19, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: In the Background section where it says "Manchester United go into the final with a record of 11 wins from 18 FA Cup finals, one behind in each record to Arsenal." Winning it would match Arsenal's record. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:26, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
  • Right, I see that. But the article doesn't say that they're looking to match Arsenal's FA Cup record. And what does "one behind in each record" mean? Please also remember the cites. Yoninah (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I would say that they are given they want to win it (why else would they be in it?). One behind in each record means that they are one place behind Arsenal in FA Cup wins and FA cup final appearances. The RSSSF source very clearly confirms this but I have reworded the article to make it clearer. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:46, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Restoring tick per Retroplum's review. Yoninah (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC)