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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:21, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1

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Autograph of the first page of a solo violin part
Autograph of the first page of a solo violin part
  • Reviewed: David Hamilton (businessman)
  • Comment: best on Palm Sunday, 20 Mar, - yes I know the image doesn't show much detail in that size, but it shows how much effort Bach put into it

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 13:51, 8 March 2016 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - I pressume we're using the first sentence of the third paragraph of History and words for the hook. It doesn't have an inline citation and the next citation does confirm a date of its performance, but doesn't say that this was the first performance. Also, how did you find out what day of the year palm Sunday fell on? I can rather eerily only read page 666, so is this information on the following pages? Jolly Ω Janner 09:08, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Interesting: Yes

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I don't think it's necessary to use an inline citation for the date that Palm Sunday falls on per Wikipedia:Common knowledge (if it's not already in the source), but I would at least like to know how you found it out, so that I can verify the method. I've also added a US public domain tag to the image. Jolly Ω Janner 09:08, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for looking. I didn't find it out but read it in the sources, will go and find one to cite. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:14, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Done. You can read it in Dürr, but the pages are offline, so I cited it to Hofmann. Good catch. (This is an "old" article, with this "old" statement, and nobody asked for a source so far.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Okay, that checks out. We still need to verify that that this was the date of the cantata's first performance. And then place that reference as an inline citation at the end of the sentence. Jolly Ω Janner 09:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Will try to find someone to explicitly say that. Bach composed his cantatas for a certain occasion, DYK? See Church cantata (Bach). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Hofmann would support the same thing, but Gardiner says it more clearly: "The climax of this concert was the Annunciation cantata BWV 1 Wie schön leuchtet des Morgenstern, first performed in Leipzig in 1725, a year in which the Feast of the Annunciation and Palm Sunday coincided." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:41, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Excellent find and you've now also added that ref at the end of the sentence. This is good to go, so I will try to get someone to promote it quickly for Palm Sunday. Jolly Ω Janner 09:46, 18 March 2016 (UTC)