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On 26 February 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Cities and towns during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The result of the discussion was Moved to Control of cities during the Russo-Ukrainian War.

On 30 September 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Control of localities during the Russo-Ukrainian War. The result of the discussion was Moved to Territorial control during the Russo-Ukrainian War.

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Dark mode problems

The map at Template:Russo-Ukrainian War detailed map is pretty hard to read in dark mode. In light mode, the names of cities are in blue on a yellow or light gray background. In dark mode, the text is blue (though it looks grey, but each city name has a black-background box around it, which results in low-contrast text. The country background colors of yellow and light grey are the same, which makes the black boxes jarring. The blue and red dots showing city control are also darker shades, which makes them harder to distinguish. This page could just be hard-wired to ignore dark mode, or there are suggestions at mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis. -- Beland (talk) 03:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vovche

Vovche next to Prohres in Donetsk Oblast is certainly captured, on around 20 July - 29 July, but there is no information about it on the article. Same for Svyrydonivka, Timofiivka, Zhuravka and Lysychne. 77.219.13.96 (talk) 16:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Same for Zalizne and New York. 77.219.13.96 (talk) 16:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

77.219.13.96: added Vovche and updated Zalizne. About New York, ISW still shows a large part of it controlled by Ukrainian forces so it would be too early to change it (right now its shown as contested). For Svyrydonivka, etc., those are all relatively small settlements/villages and this list is already so long as it is so ideally would be best to avoid putting them all in (I added Vovche though since I think its been reported quite a bit amongst the media (like Prohres) although other editors are free to take it out if it helps). Cheers, Dan the Animator 22:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I understand, thanks :) Pivnichne will also soon need to be added. 77.219.4.202 (talk) 18:52, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pivnichne already seems to be present in the list. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant added to the list at the bottom, which shows the dates and order of capture. 77.219.12.48 (talk) 11:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And Pivdenne certainly isnt contested, its 100% captured 77.219.12.48 (talk) 11:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zalizne

ISW and deepstate show like RF controls %99 of the town so, it could be marked as controlled by russians Asigooo (talk) 20:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

99% is not 100%, nor have either of those sources explicitly said it was "captured by Russia". As Russia, from the ISW's own map, controls the part of the town where anyone actually lives, a news source in their own voice saying the town is captured would be fine, but I can't find any at the moment. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 21:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Krasnohorivka

On the map, Krasnohorivka should be shown as mostly captured (red circle with a spinning icon in the top left, similar to Toretsk or Selydove currently).

~< Valentinianus I (talk) >~ 11:08, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vyimka

Vyimka is captured according to Russian MOD: "Russia says it has captured two more settlements in east Ukraine". Reuters.

~< Valentinianus I (talk) >~ 11:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, and that's what they claim; it's not yet confirmed by any reliable source. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kursk Oblast

Kurchatov and the KNPP are missing from the territorial control list and the detailed map. They, together with Lgov and Rylsk, were seemingly the end goals for the Kursk offensive.

Further more, Belaya and Bolshoye Soldatskoye are on the list, but not on the map. Adding them would make the approximate extent of the Sudzha salient/incursion more visible.

~< Valentinianus I (talk) >~ 13:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Toretsk urban hromada

The capture of Pivdenne is missing from the timeline. I'd suggest going with the Russian date, as there is no alternative Ukrainian date. The "confirmed capture" date is just ISW admitting it was captured, not when.
The capture of Zalizne is also missing from the timeline. I'd again suggest going with the Russian date, as there is no alternative Ukrainian date. The "confirmed capture" date is just ISW admitting it was captured, not when.
Pivnichne is claimed captured since at least 31 August 2024: "7 killed by Russian attacks as Moscow pushes ahead in Ukraine's east". AP News.

~< Valentinianus I (talk) >~ 08:52, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with all 3 suggestions. Asigooo (talk) 22:31, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About Timeline of total controlled territory section - Crimea

I think it'd be better if u stated that "territory" in this part includes crimea, since crimea is seen autonomous by some people. Asigooo (talk) 21:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]