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September 24

Retrieving data from the wayback machine.

I need to know how I can grab for my own leisurely research the last known full version of a website no longer online but archived at the waybackmachine. I've unfortunately been away from a PC for 6 or 7 years and I'm lost as a fart in a whirlwind. I was last using win7 and now trying to learn 11. Help a techno peasant out? TIA! Brad (talk) 20:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brad101: I find the Wayback Machine browser extensions useful for this. They're listed at https://web.archive.org/ under "Tools". Visiting any website with one of these extensions active will enable searching and visiting archived versions if they are available. — ClaudineChionh (she/her · talk · contribs · email) 00:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no extension for your favourite browser, you

can prepend https://web.archive.org/*/ to the url of an archived web page. For example, visiting

https://web.archive.org/*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing

allows you to find all archived versions of this page, from August 29, 2006, up to the p[resent. --Lambiam 14:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify... I want to bring all of the archived data down to my local machine. I need to know how to do that. Thanks. Brad (talk) 20:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://superuser.com/questions/828907/how-to-download-a-website-from-the-archive-org-wayback-machine has several answers from various years. They may be too complex for you. --Error (talk) 23:20, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September 25

Bedroom wall mounted entertainment system

We haven't had a TV in years and don't want one; instead we view streaming services on computers and Android devices. We are going to renovate a bedroom and would like to watch these services in bed on a wall-mounted monitor. What hardware and type of device makes sense? It couldn't be a touch-screen. I guess we could manage to use a mouse. Could that let us access an on-screen keyboard? Should this be computer-based or Android? We would want to be able to turn it on and off remotely. (We have laptop computers but don't want to involve them for this.) Do I need to provide any further information? Hayttom (talk) 14:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, a Smart TV? Perhaps you'd prefer some kind of free software smart TV platform to avoid possible vendor lock-in. Card Zero (talk) 15:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, exactly, a Smart TV. I should have guessed. Thanks for the tip about vendor lock-in. Also, having read the article, I think I want one without a camera. (Or I'll cover it up.) Hayttom (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Resolved

Let's not be hasty, there are many horror stories about security holes and unblockable adverts: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook (2019), You watch TV. Your TV watches back (2019), I spent $3,000 on a Samsung Smart TV and all I got were ads and unwanted content ... meanwhile, it's possible, with I think practically any TV you buy these days, to screencast from an android tablet to your wall-mounted screen. In which case what you really want is the dumbest TV possible that will accept wireless screen echoing. Card Zero (talk) 16:16, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

With this screencasting, would I get the maximum resolution on the dumb TV? Hayttom (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is an issue, yes. I don't know. We also have a Home theater PC article, and it's worth noting that small bluetooth keyboards exist and can be used with Android, and I think with smart TVs, in case that ends up being relevant. Another frequent complaint I see about smart TVs is that the interface may be slow, awkward, confusing, or filled with auto-playing adverts. Some people use a gaming console for streaming TV instead. I have a vague notion that denying your new TV its own network access (not telling it the wifi password), while connecting it physically to some other small device, such as a small computer, controlled remotely, might work out better. (This might be more straightforward than obtaining one of the increasingly rare not-smart TVs, although Sceptre is apparently a manufacturer of that kind.) As another editor mentioned, you then have potentially burdensome effort when turning the whole contraption on, and launching software and telling it to connect - or the effort of working out how to automate this. Fan noise may also be an issue if the device is powerful. Card Zero (talk) 18:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You mention it being a bedroom wall. I don't have a TV in my bedroom, but I do have one in my living room mounted on a wall. Behind that wall is a long closet. I ran everything through the wall. The power cable. The antenna cable. The internet cable. The game system cables. Etc... The only thing visible in the living room is the television. I feel that is what you would want in a bedroom. You don't want to see cables and electronic components cluttering up the space. So, while remodeling, think about what is behind the wall. Can you run everything on the other side? As for a smart TV, it comes with a very easy to use remote. You don't have to have a keyboard and mouse next to you run it. Also, you can cast most phone displays to most smart TVs. So, you can watch on your phone and then send the display to the TV when you are ready. If you used a computer, you will lose the simplicity of a remote control and the ability to cast your display from your phone unless you get some rather complicated devices and programs running as well. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 17:15, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Already planned all of that, and already mentioned I don't want to use my computer, but thanks. Hayttom (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Smart TVs are unlikely to have software updates for all the years the hardware will work. There can be problems with the user interface, security and others, as they are actually computers managed by an external company. I have a bookmark to a now lost tweet mentioning LG commercial panels that are used for hotels and displays and have not TV tuner or apps. Searching for "commercial panel" gives me solar panels. It seems that LG calls them commercial displays. I guess that other brands offer similar hardware. With them you will need a home theater PC as Card Zero said. There are commercial solutions or you could search for free software solutions based on Raspberry Pi or similar hardware. Check how its 10-foot user interface is since you will use it a lot. Category:Streaming media systems may have useful articles. Since you probably watch commercial streaming, you may be limited by what operating system the official applications for your streaming service run on. --Error (talk) 23:15, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some research on smart TVs and privacy from a couple of weeks ago: apparently they send screenshots of anything shown on the screen when connected to a device by HDMI, but not when mirroring a phone. Also you can opt out, but it's an involved process, with six settings to change on a Samsung TV and eleven on an LG TV. Card Zero (talk) 09:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 3

Does Wuvday violate privacy?

Looking at the photos and videos already published by other users on the Wuvday website, I see that they portray people. Is this a violation of privacy? If I publish photos and videos for tourism and (less likely) journalistic purposes, can I be charged with this crime? 151.95.216.228 (talk) 15:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This website? --Lambiam 16:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! 2.194.244.126 (talk) 16:54, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a question about application of Italian law as it refers to the consent of people in photographs used for commerical media. It is not a "computing" question. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 16:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a question more for the Humanities board, and laws can vary country to country, but my 2p as a photographer in the U.K

Basically everything you see on public property is free to be photographed, the definition of public/private is a hard one and is a line that's often blurred, it's not strictly outdoors/indoors because car parks are private property but a picture of someone on the street (i.e in public) is legal here, there are rules (most notably no minors and no homeless) and if someone asks you to delete it, you delete it!

Private property is different, things like shopping centers, you should always consult the info boards or ask someone working there before using a camera, photography/videography on private property isn't strictly illegal, but the owner sets the rules including those on camera usage.

Filming police officers in public is also ok, i've done it before, they didn't care.

It may seem an invasion of privacy, but imagine if you couldn't have other people in your photos full stop, it would make photography very hard.

Oddly though i've heard the rules regarding CCTV are the opposite, a CCTV camera must be filming your private property only and not anywhere else, i know someone who had police knock on their door asking for footage of an incident and he was like "it was out of view because of your rules"

If you want to know more you should read the articles on Candid photography Street photography Photography and the law etc OGWFP (talk) 21:42, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if there's much case law in this respect. But I think the issue with doorbell CCTV is a view of the "street", in most situations, inevitably includes other peoples' property. I know there's been software for many years which allows blanking out shapes corresponding to windows, though I think that was done to make CCTV more acceptable, rather than on legal grounds. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:48, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

October 5

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On Windows command prompt instead of up, down, right, left cursor functionality (arrow keys). Any ideas? All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:26, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Your keypresses are being incorrectly converted into control characters. I see the same thing regularly on Linux, though, and not Windows. See here for more info: Stackoverflow question

If you launch the command line from the Start menu, then it shouldn't be doing this at the first prompt.

Are you sure you have launched cmd.exe from your desktop, and it's doing this? Or maybe you have launched Powershell instead, or something in WSL. Komonzia (talk) 23:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely command prompt, and, yes I found the stack overflow and other items. I'm pretty sure some weird keystroke caused it, because I was using up-arrow almost immediately before it happened. It's likely to happen again, and I like to know how to get out of these funny states (there are more of them than most people are aware). All the best: Rich Farmbrough 00:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I've played around with the keyboard to try to reproduce, no luck with that. However I did find the caps lock temporarily stops the mains hum on my soundbar... All the best: Rich Farmbrough 00:26, 6 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Did you try numlock? Or insert Andre🚐 00:28, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Numlock doesn't affect the actual cursor keys which I was referring to. The numpad keys work as cursor keys or numbers as expected. Cheers. Rich Farmbrough 00:38, 6 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Usually on Linux and Powershell it happens after pressing another key combination, or after having started a command / program which runs for a long time or returns another prompt.

Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Break to force quit it and return a new prompt usually works. I think in cmd.exe it would return a new prompt which isn't stuck in that mode. Komonzia (talk) 00:59, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 6