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Other factors in George Floyd's death

It should be noted in the Wikipedia article on the cause of the George Floyd's death that there were several factors that contributed to Floyd's death. According to an AP article, the medical examiner indicated that Floyd suffered from heart disease, hypertension, enlarged heart, plus fentanyl intoxication and methamphetamine use at the time of his death. Those factors along with the pressure on his neck from Officer Chauvin caused his death. 2600:1700:2E37:1C00:702F:BD3A:4C80:C525 (talk) 20:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those details are covered at Murder of George Floyd#Autopsies, and that's not what they say. Both autopsies agreed that Floyd's heart stopped because Chauvin crushed his neck for upwards of nine minutes. One of the reports identified these other causes that made it more likely that Floyd's injury would be fatal, but Chauvin's restraint caused the fatal injury, and that's what's relevant to this article. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You need to watch the fall of Minneapolis and get all the facts straight. Please and thank you. 152.37.128.99 (talk) 23:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although I agree with Ivanvector generally, the autopsies themselves did NOT conclude that, they concluded just that his heart stopped and not why. It was succesfully argued by the prosecution that the kneeling caused most likely caused the heart attack. There is a difference, and that is legal versus medical. You cannot go around saying something that isn't true on wikipedia you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:6433:4301:DBA4:150D:4C56:D5B3 (talk) 20:05, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

43 or 23?

In the heading to Career: "He received a medal for valor in 2006 for being one of several officers who fired 23 shots on Wayne Reyes..."

But later on:

"On October 29, 2006, Chauvin was one of six officers who opened fire on Wayne Reyes, killing him, after he reportedly stabbed his girlfriend and a friend and fled in his truck.. Police shot 43 rounds in four seconds."

Which one?

Edited as initially ctrl + entered whilst incomplete by mistake. EPEAviator (talk) 14:47, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you considered that they may have missed 20 shots? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:6433:4301:DBA4:150D:4C56:D5B3 (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Change the word "murder" to "kill" when not referring to names of criminal charges, in quotes, etc. PhantomSamurai97 (talk) 23:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. PianoDan (talk) 17:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can a reason be given for this not being done? I think that this is part of what I perceive as political subtext on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C5:6433:4301:DBA4:150D:4C56:D5B3 (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"who police said pointed a shotgun at them"; "according to police"

In the first para of Career, there is unwarranted use of these terms when talking about factual events. The truth of these facts is not just from the police but witness testemonies et cetera. I just point it out as it is evincing of a writer who is trying to add something political with subtext. 2A00:23C5:6433:4301:DBA4:150D:4C56:D5B3 (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Derek has been moved to FTC Oklahoma City

Verified by his mum Trump20Maga24 (talk) 09:48, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Please see WP:RS -- Euryalus (talk) 11:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

This article confirms it: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2024/08/20/excop-convicted-in-floyd-killing-set-for-release . Kablammo (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

and https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/derek-chauvin-transferred-to-oklahoma-federal-prison-from-arizona/?intcid=CNM-00-10abd1h .