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I don't have much time to work on this, but I can add sources. Granted, it's hard for me to be NPOV about everything here, but I'm actually gobsmacked that there isn't a page on this already. If anyone can help add to it, please do.

ManicParroT 02:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's been sourced, and the source is reliable (BBC) so this page is fine. Admittedly, I hadn't heard of him before, but after looking into it a little he is DEFINITELY notable. Perel 02:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

no matter how awful a person he is, assasin is probably the wrong wording to use —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.8.21 (talk) 02:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any suggestions? Operative? Agent? ManicParroT (talk) 16:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about just: Eugene de Kock is a former colonel of the South African Police force during Apartheid in South Africa. Dubbed "Prime Evil" by the media, he was the commander of C1 unit (Vlakplaas) of the South African Police counter insurgency group, well known for executing dozens of anti-apartheid activists. With the citation: "The voice of 'Prime Evil'". BBC. October 28, 1998. Isofarro (talk) 19:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed "executing" to "killing", which is a neutral (though not ideal) word. Execution is killing following some form of legal process, which these killings were not, as the rest of the article makes clear. The term "extrajudicial assassinations" is also used here, is that better? Babakathy (talk) 10:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to go ahead and remove the NPOV tag, since the issues seem to have been addressed. ManicParroT (talk) 10:27, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Considered one of the darkest figures of the apartheid period" - I rarely find such POV descriptions in Wikipedia. Even Hitler receives a more balanced description. And C1 did not "became a death squad which hunted down and killed opponents of the National Party and the apartheid system". It was a counter-insurgency unit that hunted down terrorists - just like CIA teams that use bombs and drones to kill AL Qaeda members.119.224.91.84 (talk) 06:45, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

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To describe de Kock as a "colonel, torturer, and assassin" is not objective, or encyclopaedic language. He was no more a "torturer and assassin" than was Mandela. As for C1 having "hunted down and killed opponents of the National Party and the apartheid system", this is even more emotive and misleading. One could say the same for the CIA. Such emotive and political language should be avoided in Wikipedia.Royalcourtier (talk) 02:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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