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National conservatism

I would move it from "factions" to main ideologies because in the recent years many liberal members were expelled. The only not-national conservative parties left are Slovak SaS (which is not even conservative at all), German LKR (which is very minor), North Irish UUP, Flemish N-VA and maybe ODS.

@Vacant0, Scia Della Cometa, and Checco: Braganza (talk) 09:43, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ECR is a mainstream conservative party, but I agree that "national conservatism" can be considered one of its main ideologies. --Checco (talk) 15:28, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

JA21

Anysource on JA21 leaving ECR? Norschweden (talk) 01:00, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Right-wing to far-right

Hi. Currently any source describe the party as a centre-right one. And also the major part of it are far-right parties. Only 3 are vaguely considered as centre-right. So I propose changing the position to "right-wing to far-right" indicating the previous centre-right position or faction. Hidolo (talk) 00:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They arent widely described as far-right -- FMSky (talk) 04:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Hidolo. It should be right-wing to far-right. The far-right is not merely "factions" as the page currently states (which is WP:SYNTH as sources don't call the far-right a faction or factions within the ECR). In response to FMSky there are plenty of sources that call the ECR far-right, here are six of them - ^[7] Helper201 (talk) 08:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you. The party is not more a centre-right one. Now is right-wing to far-right. Locoporlavida (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes unsurprisingly, considering you're the new account of user Hidolo --FMSky (talk) 20:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Hidolo or shall we say LokitaLokita, long time no see. I just wanted to ask, how many sockpuppets do you have? Odideum (talk) 20:44, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Refrences

^ Carolan, Ciara (10 April 2024). "Qatargate: Right-wing MEPs voted en masse against key anti-corruption measures". The Brussels Times. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
^ Bullens, Lara (4 June 2024). "European parliamentary elections: What a right-wing surge could mean for the EU". France 24. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
^ Joyner, Ella (11 June 2024). "Europe's far right won ground in the EU elections. Can they unite to wield power?". AP News. Retrieved 20 June 2024.
^ Alonso, Aida (8 March 2024). "The European Free Alliance sets out its key demands ahead of elections". Euronews. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
^ Barigazzi, Jacopo; Sorgi, Gregorio (21 June 2023). "Italy has won migration. It's aiming for Europe next". Politico EU. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
^ Gotev, Georgi (6 May 2024). "The Brief – Looking back before we vote". Euractiv. Retrieved 5 June 2024.
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Proposing semi-protection

Hi everyone,

I am proposing to semi-protect the following pages: The Left in the European Parliament – GUE/NGL, European Conservatives and Reformists Party, Renew Europe, Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe, Europe of Sovereign Nations (party), Europe of Sovereign Nations Group, and Patriots for Europe. The same message is copy-pasted on all of the relevant talk pages, so that the merits of this proposal can be discussed for each of these pages.

My reasoning is the same for all pages: all of them have been the victim of recurring vandalism over the past few weeks, where (mostly) anonymous users change the ideology of the party/group without sources or discussion. Mostly, this is done to remove "far-right" (often when the ideology is "right-wing to far-right"), change "far-right" to "right-wing", remove "center-right" (when the ideology is "center to center-right"), change "center-right" to "center-left", or change "left-wing" to "far-left". These changes are often quickly reverted, but their continued occurrence is problematic. Semi-protecting the page would prevent anonymous users from making such edits.

Meanwhile, the overwhelming majority of quality edits are made from registered accounts, which would not be affected by the semi-protection. This is particularly true since these pages are part of a rather niche group (European parties and parliamentary groups) that is very rarely edited by non-wikipedians. As a result, I do not think that the semi-protection would have a negative impact on the continued development of these pages.

Happy to discuss! Julius Schwarz (talk) 11:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Carolan, Ciara (10 April 2024). "Qatargate: Right-wing MEPs voted en masse against key anti-corruption measures". The Brussels Times. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

[2] Bullens, Lara (4 June 2024). "European parliamentary elections: What a right-wing surge could mean for the EU". France 24. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

[3] Joyner, Ella (11 June 2024). "Europe's far right won ground in the EU elections. Can they unite to wield power?". AP News. Retrieved 20 June 2024.

[4] Alonso, Aida (8 March 2024). "The European Free Alliance sets out its key demands ahead of elections". Euronews. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

[5] Barigazzi, Jacopo; Sorgi, Gregorio (21 June 2023). "Italy has won migration. It's aiming for Europe next". Politico EU. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

[6] Gotev, Georgi (6 May 2024). "The Brief – Looking back before we vote". Euractiv. Retrieved 5 June 2024.

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