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A fact from Kenneth Odumegwu appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 June 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Kenneth Odumegwu had never appeared in an organized American football game prior to playing in the NFL?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 22:31, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Kenneth Odumegwu's first organized football game was in the National Football League?

Source: WFRV-TV

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edna Hibel

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 180 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC).[reply]

article is long enough, new enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting (note, linked NFL in the hook). Awaiting QPQ BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The hook is a bit confusing. What does "organized football game" mean? If you get the context, yes it's interesting, but without the context it may be confusing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I find it understandable, but would saying something like, e.g., his first "formal" game, be better? BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:28, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that helps. If the point is that the first he placed an actual game of American football while in the NFL and never played the game before, that could probably be made clearer. Adding that he actually started out as a basketball player might also add interest. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As an aside, it's almost a week since the nomination so a QPQ will need to be given sooner rather than later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will do tomorrow. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Throwing out some possible ALTs, re-wording is welcome:

ALT1 ... that Kenneth Odumegwu played soccer and basketball in Nigeria before being selected as part of the NFL's International Player Pathway Program?
ALT2 ... that prior to appearing for the Green Bay Packers in a 2023 pre-season game, Kenneth Odumegwu had never played an organized American football game before?

There might be a better way to word ALT2 to address my concerns about what "organized" means, these suggestions are more for brainstorming purposes. Pinging Gonzo_fan2007 for his thoughts. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am fine with Alt2 if Beanie is. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meh, I don't think that's as interesting a hook, not to mention I'm not sure I see how that would alleviate the "organized" concern? Though, if we're going with that style, what about: ALT3 ... that prior to playing in the NFL, Kenneth Odumegwu had never appeared in an organized American football game? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

to ALT3. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Kenneth Odumegwu/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 19:48, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 20:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Lead

I think you need to add a sentence in the lead about his early life. Maybe mentioning where he went to college and how he got into the IPPP.

Early life

to tryout in this use, "tryout" should be "try out"
Odumegwu posted a reported 4.8-second, I think you can delete "reported" as that is implied

Professional career

No comments

References

Refs 3, 6, 10, 14 need access dates.
Ref 8 needs |url-access=subscription
Refs 19 and 20 aren't consistent with the other sources (should be Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks instead of Packers.com and Seahawks.com)
Ref spot checks were consistent with what is being cited.

That's all I got BeanieFan11. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gonzo fan2007: Expanded the lead, made the early life edits. Changed refs 19/20, added access-dates to 6, 10, 4, added subscription to 8; as for 3, it seems that became a deadlink so I added an archive to it. Is that everything? BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Looks good. Passed! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:23, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.