Talk:Malik Arslan/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Aintabli (talk · contribs) 23:06, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 13:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Image review

No images

Prose review

• the Mamluk Sultan Sayf al-Din Inal (r. 1453–61) as a declaration of his allegiance to the Mamluk Sultanate. The Mamluk sultan favored - Why not use his name here?

   Done

• In the spring of 1365 - per MOS:SEASON, we should use an alternative to "spring", as that would be late 1365 in the southern hemisphere.

  Changed to second quarter

• The Mamluk Sultan Khushqadam sought Malik Arslan's support - Why not just "Khushqadam"?

   Done

• his proximity to - per Oxford, proximity refers to physical or temporal closeness; this was more of an alliance or a familiarity. Another synonym for "closeness" would work better here

  Changed to ties

• You link Turkmen to Turkoman (ethnonym) here but Oghuz Turks at Shah Budak. Which is correct?

  I believe since one is a term for the other, the latter might be more appropriate than the former unless that term is specifically discussed or emphasized. I don't feel strong about it, and many articles do not follow this principle. This is more or less a grey area. Aintabli (talk) 03:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Source review

• All references appear reliable'

Comprehensiveness

• Enter, Riding on an Elephant: How to Approach Early Ottoman Edirne gives Malik Arslan as the brother to Sittişah Hatun, and suggests that he escorted her to her wedding with Mehmed II. It also mentions a depiction of the two arriving in the Ottaman capital as serving as the frontispiece to a manuscript; if a digital copy is available online, that may offer us a (near?) contemporary depiction of Malik Arslan.

  This is abolutely wonderful. I have found the publication that source referred to. Actually, I have seen that depiction of Malik Arslan before, but some poor-quality news sites implied it was Mehmed II's portrait, and I couldn't find any RS supporting it was Malik Arslan until now. So, I have uploaded the picture to Commons and cited the relevant source that identifies him as the man in the manuscript. Thank you! Aintabli (talk) 18:06, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

  That's excellent! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

• I'm not seeing any other sources, but I will have a look through the Wikipedia library when I get home.

  I will follow up on this. Aintabli (talk) 03:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

  I just tried a few different repositories. I see Wikilala has numerous sources mentioning "Malik" or "Melik Arslan", but based on a spotcheck of one 1941 publication these seem to be individuals who share the name. Searching for Malik or Melik Arslan plus Dulkadir gave me nothing. But then, I don't speak Turkish, so I don't know if there are any strings that could produce results.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:05, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

• The article on Shah Budak indicates that Malik Arslan's son contested the throne as well; might be worth a mention here

  Added it to the last section. Aintabli (talk) 03:13, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Conclusion

• Short and sweet. This is very close to passing the GA review.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)