Talk:Robert J. McMullen

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Review: August 5, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Robert J. McMullen appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 April 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Centre College co-president Robert L. McLeod served for fifteen months on a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier while Robert J. McMullen, the other co-president, ran the school's day-to-day operations?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert L. McLeod.

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:50, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Robert L. McLeod and Robert J. McMullen were co-presidents of Centre College from September 1944 to November 1945? Source: 1, 2
- ALT1: ... that Robert L. McLeod and Robert J. McMullen were co-presidents of Centre College for fifteen months while the former served in the United States Navy?
- ALT2: ... that Robert J. McMullen was hired as co-president of Centre College while Robert L. McLeod, the other co-president, was on leave in the United States Navy?
- ALT3: ... that for fifteen months, Centre College co-president Robert L. McLeod served in the United States Navy on an aircraft carrier while Robert J. McMullen, the other co-president, ran the day-to-day operations of the school?
- Reviewed: Herobrine, List of Seattle SuperSonics seasons

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 23:54, 6 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Robert L. McLeod; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Thank you PCN02WPS for two well-written articles. Both articles were recently expanded 5x, well-written and within policy. No image so no problem there. No qpq's have been done, so that needs to be addressed. Furthermore, I find the hook in its present form a bit lacking. I imagine that an arrangement of having two co-presidents of colleges are not extremely rare; at least it does not strike the reader immediately as something particularly intriguing. However, the reason they were co-presidents is that one of them was serving onboard an aircraft carrier in the Pacific Ocean during World War II. That is actually quite unexpected an interesting. Could perhaps the hook be elaborated a bit, to tease the reader into reading the articles, using this fact? I think there are options here. Let me know what you think. Kind regards, Yakikaki (talk) 19:03, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Yakikaki: thanks for the review. I have added 3 QPQs above (one for each nominated article and an extra since we're in unreviewed backlog mode) and added some alternate hooks to take your suggestions into account. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 21:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Great, thanks for the quick response! I think all three ALT hooks work well, and are properly supported by inline citations. QPQ also done now. Good to go! Yakikaki (talk) 21:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are in WP:QPQ backlog mode. Double reviews are required.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TonyTheTiger: I was told by Launchballer that this only applied to nominations made after the backlog mode was activated. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I misread the 6 as an 8. Sorry for the confusion.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:53, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Restoring the previous tick by Yakikaki superseded by TonyTheTiger, who should make very sure all of his incorrectly superseding "review again" icons are themselves superseded by the original icons. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:01, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. 750 h+ 10:48, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This article was promoted by 750 h+ 10:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Robert J. McMullen/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: PCN02WPS (talk · contribs) 21:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: 750h+ (talk · contribs) 05:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starting review. 750 h+ 05:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

prose

Feel free to refuse my suggestions with proper justification of course.

lead

he was licensed to preach in April 1909 and soon ~~after~~ left the country
president for a four-year term ==> "president for four years"
its lone president until the following October i would just say "its lone president until October 1946"

early life and education

I would merge the two paragraphs. There's also quite a lot of usage of "He" rather than his last name.

career

During his presidency he delivered for consistency with the entire article, add a comma after "presidency"

personal life and death

No problems here

image and source review

Source review and spot check checks out (as long as "Presbyterian Heritage Center at Montreat" is a reliable source) and article's images look fine; all are public domain. 750 h+ 13:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

verdict

Excellent small article. Placing on hold. 750 h+ 13:15, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@750h+ All taken care of. As for using "he" instead of his last name, I don't see a problem with that since the subject doesn't change in that paragraph and I don't want to be repetitive with use of his name. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 20:28, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine. Passing

. 750 h+ 10:46, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.