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Reviewer: West Virginian (talk · contribs) 21:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rodw, I will be engaging in a thorough review of this article within the next 48 hours. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns in the meantime. Thanks! -- West Virginian (talk) 21:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Rodw, as promised, I've completed a thorough and comprehensive review and re-review of this article, and I find that it meets the criteria for passage to Good Article status. Prior to its passage, however, I do have some comments and suggestions that should first be addressed. Thank you for all your hard work on this article and others like it! -- West Virginian (talk) 08:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, no copyvios, spelling and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Lede

  • Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section, the lede of this article adequately defines the pumping station museum, establishes the museum's necessary context, and explains why the museum is otherwise notable.
  • The info box for the ship is beautifully formatted and its content is sourced within the prose of the text and by the references cited therein.
  • The image of the pumping station's red brick building is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0 and is therefore acceptable for use here.
  • The Somerset locator map is licensed CC BY-SA 3.0 and is also acceptable for use here.
  • Westonzoylandpumpingstation.jpg should have both a formal caption that appears in the template, and an alt caption, which is already in place.
  • I would suggest removing the ampersand in Westonzoyland Pumping Station Museum of Steam Power & Land Drainage and replacing it with and unless the ampersand is officially part of the historic site's formal name.
  • Grade II* listing should be wiki-linked in the lede.
  • The lede is otherwise well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no further comments or questions for this section.

History

  • Regarding the Domesday Book reference, it should probably be specified that draining was under way at the time of its recording around 1086. There should be some sort of temporal reference here.
  • Glastonbury Abbey, the River Tone, Pawlett, Bridgwater, River Axe, and Glastonbury should all be wiki-linked in their first usage within the prose, as not all readers are familiar with these place names.
  • "In 1500, there was said..." I would include who said this.
  • Lords and Commoners are capitalized, but Parliament is not? For consistency's sake, I suggest capitalizing Parliament.
  • For the "reens" pronunciation, I suggest consulting Help:IPA for English for crafting a phrasing of IPA symbols used for English pronunciations.
  • Westonzoyland Pumping Station - geograph.org.uk - 676871.jpg needs an alt caption describing the photograph. It is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0 and is otherwise acceptable for inclusion here.
  • Steam pumping engine Westonzoyland - geograph.org.uk - 676914.jpg also needs an alt caption describing the photograph. It is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0 so it is definitely acceptable for use here.
  • I noticed in the mention of "Westonzoyland, Middlezoy and Othery" there is no Oxford comma, but prior to this the Oxford comma was used consistently throughout the prose. I would just ensure that before coordinating conjunctions, that either the comma is used or not used consistently throughout.
    • I know that serial (or oxford) comma's have been the subject of some debate and I tend not to use them (but I'm not a grammar expert). Can you point out where they are used in the article?— Rod talk 10:26, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • Rodw, as this is not a requirement for Good Article status, I won't belabor the point. Either method of listing coordinating conjunctions is fine by me; I just think there should be one single method used in one article; serial or no serial comma. Under the "History" section, an Oxford comma is used here: "the monasteries of Glastonbury, Athelney, and Muchelney..." And it is also used here: "They included Southlake Wall, Burrow Wall, and Lake Wall." And here: "at Mark, 100 acres (0.4 km2) in Shapwick, and 1,700 acres (7 km2) at Westhay." But then, also in the "History" section, the Oxford comma is not used, as in this example: "Westonzoyland, Middlezoy and Othery..." Again, either method is perfectly acceptable, but only one should be used in the article. -- West Virginian (talk) 11:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • This section is otherwise well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no further comments or questions for this section.

Restoration

  • Geograph 3146561 Wills Brickworks engine - Westonzoyland.jpg needs an alt caption describing the photograph. It is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0 so it is definitely acceptable for use here.
  • Are there any inline citations for the second paragraph of this subsection?
  • This subsection is otherwise well-written and I have no further comments or questions for this subsection.

Museum

  • Geograph 3146582 Westonzoyland - Marshall Boiler.jpg needs an alt caption describing the photograph. It is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0 so it is acceptable for use here.
  • Is there an inline citation for the second paragraph of this section?
  • Westonzoyland Pumping Station Museum 28.JPG needs an alt caption describing the photograph. It is licensed CC BY-SA 4.0 so it is suitable for use here.
  • This section is otherwise well-written, consists of content that is adequately sourced and verifiable, and I have no further comments or questions for this section.

Overall

  • Rodw, while you may be lacking in the department of affability, you certainly make up for it in your tremendous and tireless efforts to beautifully illustrate the historic landmarks of England. Your articles are always thorough and comprehensive and I've been a big fan of your work for many years now. For these reasons, I look forward to reading and reviewing your future endeavors. England is lucky to have you writing its history, and sharing it for all to discover here on Wikipedia. Congratulations on another job well done! -- West Virginian (talk) 11:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]