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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 23:39, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Golden-winged Sunbird

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Golden-winged Sunbird feeding on Leonotis nepetifolia, Kenya

Created/expanded by Casliber (talk), Zhangt2413 (talk), Snowmanradio (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 04:18, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Size (3977 characters) and date (5x expansion since 26 September) check out. Third paragraph of the Feeding section needs to be cited.--SGCM (talk) 11:26, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Problems. The feeding section only refers to East Africa and the birds range is also Central Africa (see the articles introduction which says it lives in the Congo). This inconsistency could easily lead to doubts about the hook of the DYK. I think that the references all need checking and the article needs to be more internally consistent. I think that the range needs referencing. Snowman (talk) 12:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
It is strange - the Sunbirds book lists the countries but then adds "East Africa", whereas I wouldn't have thought the Democratic Republic of the Congo was east....better maybe just to list the countries. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:06, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Update - cited the [citation needed] tag and realigned the information - essentially alot of the study info comes from studies in Kenya, so tweaked wording to show this. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:31, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I am glad that you have found useful sources. It sounds that you can now amend the range mentioned in the feeding section and make it consistent with the rest of the article, which would make the hook usable, if the hook is correct. In anticipation of fixes, I have struck this out as a problem. Incidentally, I think that the image is ideally suited to the hook. Snowman (talk) 14:35, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I rejigged the wording so that it showed that although the discussion was in Kenya, it did not imply that the birds exclusively lived there. Do you think that is more clear or still misleading from the way I have rejigged it? Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:16, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Without seeing the sources, I think that I would like a little more clarity. I am finding the location given as "East Africa" to be rather vague, and I am not sure if eastern Democratic Republic of the Congo is in central Africa or East Africa. Perhaps, it would be clearer if you said something like; "Studies in Kenya showed that ..." Snowman (talk) 22:08, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Good point, reworded to show that studies took place in Kenya on Leonotis and Golden-winged Sunbirds. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:29, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
The new wording seems clear to me and it think it should be fine for the DYK. Snowman (talk) 14:32, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Need a reviewer to see whether the nomination has the necessary citations, and anything else not yet checked. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Hook needs to be tweaked. It's the nectar of the flower that's the food source, not the actual plant.--SGCM (talk) 20:55, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Alt hook and citations check out. Length and size have already been reviewed. Good to go.--SGCM (talk) 23:05, 6 October 2012 (UTC)