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Happy editing! Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion of Santidev Ghosh

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A tag has been placed on Santidev Ghosh requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. From-cary (talk) 17:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC) {{I believe this article does not merit immediate deletion. I intend to fix this page with more detail and reference to how this person is very relevant and needs to be linked to the pages of Rabindranath Tagore and also on the Wikipedia page on Rabindra Sangeet}}Tonymitra (talk) 17:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Santidev Ghosh

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A tag has been placed on Santidev Ghosh requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. From-cary (talk) 19:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not recreate deleted articles

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Please do not recreate deleted articles like you did with Santidev Ghosh. It was deleted because it was not appropriate for Wikipedia and it will likely be deleted again. Thank you. --From-cary (talk) 19:11, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to create an article about him, I would suggest you create first a subpage of your user page (e.g. User:Tonymitra/Santidev Ghosh) and work on it there. (Place a note at the top that it's a work in progress.) Then put it in the page Wikipedia:Drawing board to get further opinions. ... discospinster talk 19:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for the note. I did not recreate the page, but was trying to edit it and put more information in an effort to stop it being deleted, but, I am guessing, it got deleted already, and my effort to save the update might have caused a recreation. Actually I am not an expert with Wikipedia, and sometimes feel frustrated for not being able to add useful information and material. I have been searching for a friend who can spend a bit of time showing me the ropes.

Anyhow, I did follow your advise, and created a subpage on the person Santidev Ghosh. Now I am trying to follow your second advise, which is to put that in the page Wikipedia:Drawing board. While I can click the hot link and go to the Wikipedia Drawing board, and read the exchanges there, I am yet to figure out how to "put" my subpage there. Can you please help?

I come from the part of India which relates to the pages and subjects I am trying to augment, but I live in Vancouver, Canada, and do not have anyone among my personal friends here, who knows anything about entering data into Wikipedia. Appreciate any help.

Actually, I am not even certain you will read this message, or if it will show up in your Wikipedia. I hope it does. Thanks Tonymitra (talk) 22:32, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What you want to do is go to Wikipedia:Drawing board and click "Click here to start a new discussion". For the Subject/Headline, put in the name of the article, then paste the code of your article into the box. Add a note at the beginning specifying what kind of help you are looking for. I will tell you now that one thing you will definitely need is reliable sources establishing that this person is notable by Wikipedia standards. The two important pages to read for that are WP:RS (reliable sources) and WP:BIO (notability for persons). Some external links would be helpful, such as this and this, to give an idea of his status in his field. ... discospinster talk 02:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. I did as you suggested. The page on Santidev Ghosh would grow with time, and I shall personally be working on it little by little, apart from what other members might do. But for now, please check the page out at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tonymitra/Santidev_Ghosh and also copied it all at Wikipedia:Drawing board

Is the page still not deserving to be on Wikipedia? Sure, it needs more iinformation, and it will come. But meanwhile, can it be put up on Wikipedia as it is now? I can then get more people interested to contribute on it once they see it up on Wikipedia. Please help and allow the page to up approved and up. Tonymitra (talk) 05:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Drawing board

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Hello, Tonymitra. Thank you for your note at the drawing board. You have a reply. Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another response, at the same location. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Moonriddengirl for all your help. I have cleaned up the page and reworked it as you had suggested and created an example. It is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tonymitra/Santidev_Ghosh. What more do I need to do? Can I create a page now on Santidev Ghosh and copy the content from my user sub page, or do I need to show it to someone first ?Tonymitra (talk) 04:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy if I can be of assistance. :) I've done a little bit of work on the article, mostly what we call "wikifying" it, which means putting it in standard Wikipedia form. I also brought back your sources from earlier versions. In regards to next steps, I posted that reply at the drawing board, but I will copy and paste it here for convenience.
I have watchlisted your page now, which means that if you leave me a note here, I will see it. (Generally after several days, I remove pages from watchlisting. Once this article is successfully launched, you're welcome to come to my talk page if I can assist you with anything else.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tony, the article looks really good. Thanks for your contributions. If you have any other questions, you can also ask me on talk page. ... discospinster talk 15:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks again, discospinster, much appreciate your helpful hints and for pointing me to the right direction of the Wikipedia:Drawing board.

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--Moonriddengirl- Yes, I want to talk about it some more. First, I am amazed at the amount of time you spent on this page, with what must be inscrutable information about an inscrutable place with inscrutable cultural references.

I have several questions, looking forward to improving that page, as well as gather more information for additional pages on related topics, mostly going back to the same place and the same time period (last century - eastern part of India - Bengali Renaissance and the reform movement within the Indian socieity).

1. I did not figure out how you "moved" the article out of my subpage to the main section. I would have created a new page and copy/pasted the information from my sub page.

2. Another question that comes to mind immediately, is, if I want to put supporting reference on some of the information up there on the page on Santidev Ghosh, but the supporting info in not on line, but taken off a printed book, what is the best way to do that ?

I don't know if you will be reading this part. I hope you do. But, if I should take this conversation someplace else, please tell me where.

A last footnote - the people of Santiniketan, and of the University there (Visva Bharati University) and the attached school Patha Bhavana did not have much of an internet access in the past, and are not savvy enough to engage in Wikipedia. As a result, a lot of material on Wikipedia which relate to their rich cultural history is ill-represented on Wikipedia. Some of them are closely watching what is happening to the Santidev Ghosh page. It is my hope that we should be, gradually, get them interested to actively participate, and learn the ropes on how to be good contributors to Wikipedia. For now, they are curious to see how my efforts come out. This very topic is scheduled to be discussed, among other things, in a public meeting in Santiniketan within the next week. I wont be able to attend, but learn the views that come out of it, since it would be recorded.

Again - my sincere thanks to you for taking a special interest in an esoteric subject. Tonymitra (talk) 20:13, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it is my pleasure. I enjoy helping, and I enjoy learning about new things, which makes me a perfect volunteer for the drawing board. :) Plus, it's really rewarding to work with an editor as motivated as you are to figuring out how things are done.
I moved the page by clicking on the tab along the top labeled "move". It's sixth in. When you click on it, it asks you for the new page title and gives you a block to explain your actions. This is a good thing, because if people don't understand why you've moved a page, they may assume that you shouldn't have moved it. :) You could also have copied & pasted the information from your sub-page, but note that in general you can only do this when you are the only contributor. (You can see Help:Merge if you want to know why.) There are specific citation templates that you can use to introduce print references. You can see them at Wikipedia:Citation templates. More general information on citations is available at Wikipedia:Citing sources. I'm going to put a graphical welcome box at the top of your page, because it contains quite a lot of information that you might find valuable. If any of it perplexes you (I learn best by doing), you can get explanations from me or from the help desk. It sounds fabulous that the people of Santiniketan are considering contributing more to Wikipedia. I'm glad you were willing to undertake this experiment, and I hope that it will lead to improvement of Wikipedia. Given your interest in expanding such topics, you might want to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject India, which is a group of editors who have come together to work on articles related to India. They seem to be a pretty active group, which is good. Some Wikiprojects languish for lack of attention. Please let me know how the meeting goes. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks User:Moonriddengirl . I will try to check items you mentioned. One last question for now. If I wanted to create another subpage under tonymitra, just like the Santidev Ghosh subpage was created (but not by me), how do I do it?Tonymitra (talk) 02:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same way you'd create any page. You type in the name, and it offers you the option to create. Many people (like me) maintain a "sandbox" to work in. Mine is called User:Moonriddengirl/sandbox. After I workshop a new article there, I move it to the permanent space one way or another. If you wanted to do the same, you could just follow this link: User:Tonymitra/sandbox and type in it. :) If you want to call it something else, you can do that, too--just put a different word after the /. For example, User:Tonymitra/workshop or User:Tonymitra/articles.--Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Photograph for Santidev Ghose

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Dear User:Moonriddengirl : I need help again, on getting the page of Santidev Ghose to show a picture of him. I uploaded the picture, taken by me in 1980, and it did upload, far as I can see. But it still would not show up. Perhaps it is waiting to be approved or something. Can you help please ?

WikiProject India Newsletter Volume III, Issue no. 001 - June 2008

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WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 1 - (June 2010)

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WP:IND Newsletter is back! It's been nearly a year since the last edition, but we hope to bring out issues on a more regular basis now. The India Wikiproject was set up to increasing coverage of India-related topics on Wikipedia, and over the past few months the focus has been on improving article quality. A number of the project's featured articles underwent featured article reviews over the past year. Of these, Darjeeling and Flag of India survived the review process, while the rest were demoted. During the same period, Gangtok, Harbhajan Singh, Darjeeling and Mysore were featured on the main page respectively on August 20, September 17, November 6 and December 29, 2009. Meanwhile, articles on topics as diverse as Political history of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), Marwari horse and Iravan were promoted as featured articles, and respectively appeared on the main page on March 25, May 17 and May 28, 2010. Consequently, the number of FA-class articles under the project's scope dropped from 67 in August 2009 to 63 in June 2010. The number of good articles, however, saw a more than 40% increase, from 91 to 130 during the same period, while the number of featured lists saw a 33% increase from 12 to 16.

Due to the recent policy changes regarding unreferenced Biographies of Living People (BLPs), an effort was started in January 2010 to source all unreferenced BLPs coming under Wikiproject India. 1200 such articles were identified initially and more were added to the list later. Due to the sourcing effort, the number of Indian unreferenced BLPs is down to 565 currently. During February-April 2010, There was a large scale disruption of Kerala related articles by a Thrissur based IP vandal. Editing from a dynamic IP BSNL connection, the vandal changed dates of birth, death and ages of a number of Malayalam and Tamil film actors. Later he added a few international biographies to his list. He also marked some living people like Arvind Swamy as dead. A month long range block was imposed on his IP range two times and each time he came back to vandalise dates once the block expired. Currently the range has been blocked for three months till September 11, 2010.

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WikiProject India Newsletter Volume V, Issue no. 2 - November 2010

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After a missed issue, the WP:IND newsletter is back on track to being a regular bimonthly feature. The Indian WikiProject has seen plenty of online and off-line action, both in English as well as other Indian languages, and we now have a bigger, better format that intends to feature content and news from the English as well as other Indian language Wikipedias.

Reaching out to Indians has been the theme of the Indian Wikiproject over the past couple of months, aiming to involve a greater number of Indians in editing both the English and Indian language Wikipedias. To this end, efforts to set up the Indian chapter of Wikimedia have moved into their final stages, and registration of the society is currently pending. An effort is underway to push for "WikiMarathons" at meetups, where attendees will be encouraged to edit the English and/or Indian language Wikipedias. This is intended to popularise Wikipedia editing among the general public. In addition, a bot to post DYK's from the Indian Wikiproject to Twitter was created and launched by User:Logicwiki.


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Regrettably, the number of Featured Articles has dropped from 63 in June to 58 at the end of October 2010. Several FAs came up for review and were delisted, while Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India was saved. Meanwhile, Chalukya Dynasty appeared on the main page on July 9, 2010. Hearteningly, the number of Good Articles increased from 130 to 136 during the same period, while the number of Featured Lists remained constant at 16.

The source code for the Article Alert Bot is now available and the bot itself is expected to be up and running very shortly. This means that article alerts for the Indian Wikiproject will again be available, enabling editors to easily keep track of developments in respect of reviews, nominations, deletions etc.

The date change vandal mentioned briefly in the previous issue made a reappearance when the range block on his IP range expired in September. Consequently the block was extended till September 2011.

In October there was a heated discussion in the India project noticeboard regarding the copyright status of the Indian party symbols. The discussion was triggered by the deletion of Wiki San Roze's party symbol images by Hammersoft as copyright violations. No resolution was reached, partly because of our inability to explain to Hammersoft how election symbols in India differ from party logos. Comments are requested from anyone with a background in Indian copyright law to clarify this issue.

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News from Indian-language Wikipedias
  • The Bengali Wikisource, which contains the literary works of many prominent writers of Bengali language including Rabindranath Tagore, has crossed the 5,000 pages milestone. According to List of Wikisource page, Bengali Wikisource is now at rank 21 among 56 Wikisource based on number of content pages.
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Mumbai and Delhi held their first meetups in September, where Wikimedia Board members Barry Newstead and Bishakha Datta met up with Wikipedians and other interested members of the public in these cities. A month later, Hyderabad also held its first meetup.

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Wikipedians in Bangalore continued their tradition of meeting up regularly at the Centre for Internet and Society, with the nineteenth meetup in September featuring Barry and Bishaka as attendees, and marking the release of the community newsletter. Along with Delhi and Mumbai, Bangalore is reported to be one of the three cities in contention for the Indian office of the Wikipedia Foundation.

Jimmy Wales speech at the Mumbai Wikipedia Meetup #3 on 31 October 2010. Intro by User:Bishdatta & User:Arunram. (Recorded by User:AshLin.)

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales had an interaction with Wikipedians followed by a presentation to members of the public at the third Wikipedia meetup in Mumbai on October 31, 2010.

The first Wikimarathon, where Wikipedians and members of the public were encouraged to contribute to Wikimedia projects onsite, was held simultaneously at the meetups in Bangalore and Chennai on November 14, 2010. Wikipedians in Delhi also held a meetup the same day.

The Malayalam Wikipedia held several academies in different parts of Kerala over the past few months.

Wikimedia Foundation board member Bishakha Datta and Indian Wikipedian Srinivas Gunta co-authored a panel presentation at Wikimania 2010 on the Wikimedia Asia Project.

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WikiProject India Tag & Assess 2012 Contest

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Hello friends, we are a number of editors from WikiProject India have got together to assess the many thousands of articles under the stewardship of the project, and we'd love to have you, a fellow member, join us. These articles require assessment, that is, the addition of a WikiProject template to the talk page of an article, assessing it for quality and importance and adding a few extra parameters to it.

As of March 11, 2012, 07:00 UTC, WikiProject India has 95,998 articles under its stewardship. Of these 13,980 articles are completely unassessed (both for class and importance) and another 42,415 articles are unassessed for importance only. Accordingly, a Tag & Assess 2012 drive-cum-contest has begun from March 01, 2012 to last till May 31, 2012.

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