User talk:Vanderwaalforces/Archives/2024/10 (October)

thanks for approving my page so fast.

Hello Vanderwaalforces, User:Waonderer has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Waonderer (talk) 11:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Waonderer (talk) 11:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi there :) Thank you for creating Tsangyang Gyatso peak, happy editing! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Manfred Little Konzett has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Manfred Little Konzett. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 07:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

DCWC closing update

The 2024 Developing Countries WikiContest has come to a close! After a thrilling finish to the event with a slew of submissions on the final day, we have our winners. With 608 points, Thebiguglyalien (submissions) comes in third with his series of Kiribati and Botswanan submissions; BeanieFan11 (submissions) flies into second place at the last second with 771 points after a string of good articles about sportspersons; and after leading for much of contest's three months, Generalissima (submissions) finishes with a whopping 798 points to take home the Gold Belt Buckle. Congratulations to our winners!

In addition to his spot in the top three, BeanieFan11 (submissions) also wins the special awards for submitting under the most countries (44 countries) and for writing the most articles about women (15 Did you know? nominations)! Magentic Manifestations (submissions), after making 16 submissions under the Indian flag—15 of them good articles—receives the awards for most submissions for a single country and most featured or good articles promoted. For their submission of one FAC review, five FLC reviews, and 20 GAN reviews, Simongraham (submissions) wins for most article reviews.

The results of the contest have far exceeded any expectations the coordinators had for it at the beginning: among the submissions to the event were 3 FAs, 10 FLs, 88 GAs, dozens of article reviews of every kind, and more Did you know? submissions than we can count! Regardless of your level of participation, every contestant can be proud to have contributed towards a major step in countering the systemic bias on Wikipedia. Every year, millions of readers and editors around the globe use Wikipedia to educate themselves and communicate with others about parts of the world that often receive less attention than they deserve. Thank you for participating with us in the contest and contributing to this effort. The DCWC will return next year and we look forward to seeing you contribute again! However, before that...

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Here's the image, up to you whether you use it or the other one, idm Kowal2701 (talk) 20:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Now, this is the deal ;) Thank you, we’re using this! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Maybe add it to the top of the participants section? Kowal2701 (talk) 06:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

I did now. I also added the userbox template :) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:27, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Irrelevant edit war?

To @Vanderwaalforces and @Russ Woodroofe:

If editor A thinks a page is not notable and tags it, then editor B decides it is worse and appropriate for an AfD, should editor B remove the notability tag of editor A? IMO no, they should never remove others input unless it is obviously inappropriate. Of course if editor A tags for notability then changes their mind it should in principle be removed; although the template guidance does not require this.

If you look at the current voting this will rapidly become irrelevant. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

@Ldm1954 Hi Prof. This was not an "edit war" in the first place. If I had reverted Russ Woodroofe's edit after he reverted mine, then we'd be looking at WP:3RR with the phrase "more than three reverts" replaced by "more than two reverts". I understand edit warring so well that I sometimes use to ask for other users' input if I am reverted. In this case, I didn't bother because it was indeed "irrelevant", the outcome of the AfD is already clear. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:37, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

The "how to use" on template:notability are clear. The notability tag isn't a badge of shame to keep on an article. If an editor removes it, you should not re-add it, but nominate for AfD -- see "The template must not be re-added". (I do not think it is obligatory to remove it when nominating for AfD, but do think that it is good style to so remove, as it is redundant at best.) The only circumstance where I think it is appropriate to re-add (although this is not explicitly in the documentation) is immediately after a no-consensus close, where it might be a reminder to renominate the article after some months. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:IGNORE; docu with a template is a guide not a law. We have all seen editors (particularly IPs) miscellaneously deleting things including tags without justification or even an attempt at justification. I will certainly strongly disagree with you about removing another editors opinions unless there is a strong reason, which in this case I do not see. Anyway, it was irrelevant from the start. Ldm1954 (talk) 15:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Meh, even if an IP deleted a notability template (without otherwise addressing), then I would tend to nominate for AfD rather than re-add. The opinion is expressed by the AfD nomination here. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 15:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)