Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie/archive2

Welcome to FAC

Hi SafariScribe, thank you for your nomination and welcome back to to FAC. A few pointers on the process and how to get the best from it:

What to expect

As a first time nominator at FAC, the nominated article will need to pass a source-to-text integrity spot check and a review for over-close paraphrasing in addition to all of the usual requirements.
You should be aware that every aspect of the article will be rigorously examined, including the standard of prose; breadth, standard and formatting of sources; image licencing; and adherence to the Manual of Style.

Dealing with reviewers

Try to deal with comments in a timely and constructive fashion.
Remember that reviewers are constructively giving their opinion on the article.
Keep calm when dealing with criticism of any aspect of the article.
Don't take the criticism personally: reviewers are examining the article – not you!

How to get the best from the process

Reviewing the work of others is a good way to get a grasp of the process from the other side.
Reviewing other FACs also increases the likelihood that others will review your nomination – although remember there is no quid pro quo at FAC.

Good luck with your nomination.

Gog the Mild (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Gog. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 10:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild Hi there, good day. Can I get an excerpt of why this nomination was archived? I see that no consensus is part, but I need a clearer picture of exactly what consensus we're talking about. SafariScribe has put in great effort in bring this article to this stage and I wonder why a consensus was still not reached at the second nomination. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:30, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vanderwaalforces, articles can be nominated for many times. I may not know the consensus Gog was pointing at but I feel like the time has elapsed with few (2) supports. My own issue was that there seems to be an ongoing review before it was archived. I wouldn't question Gog but I know he did the best. I will wait and keep working on it until the two weeks hiatus elapses. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No one ever gets thanked for pointing out the flaws in someone's first FAC. But, as you asked, basically the article isn't up to FA standard. AJ29's closing comments are on the money; I could explain them, but there seems to be a - not uncommon - reluctance by the nominator to hear it. UC picks out several problematic areas, any one of which, unresolved, would prevent promotion. Note that other than the lead I haven't read the article, I am going on the opinions of experienced and trusted reviewers. They are saying that the article needs a lot of work, and that without that it is not going to get promoted.

FAC is tough and has a lot of hurdles to get over, many of which can be difficult to understand. Two things which can help are:

Review 10 or 12 FACs. And read and understand every word of every word of what every other reviewer says and the nominator responds.
(This is a boilerplate statement.) My standard advice to inexperienced editors wanting to promote a complex article to FA is to run 20 or 30 articles through GAN before thinking about FAC. (I did 42.) Then nominate 6 or 8 or 10 "straight forward" articles at FAC, staring with a couple of real gimmes, ideally in the same broad subject area as the target "complex topic". Then one may be ready to put some real toughies through FAC. Of course, no one has ever been happy with these suggestions. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]